• from https://youtu.be/eCHRi9BMixw?t=5086
  • It is inefible on the scientific level
  • What does this amount to?
  • Unlikely are black wholes in the brain or some weird quantum effect
  • It is on a physical level indescribeability
    • Description in science and philosophy is compression
    • Indescribability is incompressability
    • Ioncompressability would like look an explosion of complexity with no discernable pattern in these states
      • Its not noice because that would be describeable
      • There is a kind of order quality to it
        • supra intelligible and not sub intelligible
      • john-vervaeke: it as primo facial plausability
      • its someone you are and not something you have
    • It mite be like the weather where meteorology cannot give us the kind of preditive success as with other sciences.
  • People report opposive when they come out and say "yes! ther is a god" and "no! there is no god" pointing to something important. Like that they actually see the same thing and it can mean both.